Murder or Salvation? (Part 2 of 3 of The Great Debates)

This is part 2 of 3 of my favorite debate topics. There are a couple of things I'd like to say before I start on them.

  1. I will not, at any given time, tell you what my opinion is on any of these topics. If you see something that is a little bit off the fence in any given way it is only to prove a point and for no other reason other than that. My opinion is my own, and it will stay that way to reduce the amount of hate mail or "flame comments" I receive.
  2. I am not doing this to offend any single person. I do this only to point common sense at people who do not want to listen.
  3. I am not trying to be steriotypical, or say that every body acts the ways I talk about. I am merely grouping people into a statistic to save an insane amount of time. Please read this article with a grain of salt and an open mind.
  4. I have worked a seriously long time on this article, this is not something I just woke up one day and crapped out for your enjoyment. I've thought long and hard about everything I say.
  5. If you reply, do it in calm way. I promise that I will delete every single bit of unnecessary drama that is placed into my comment box. However, if you have something to say, or perhaps to add, then I'd be glad to hear it as long as it's done in a respectful manner.

 

Now then, it is my opinion that every one of these arguments should be left up to the person to decide. Every single case could be solved with "You are not god. You have no right to tell others how to live, or what to do." However, not everyone listens to that statement, and feels that they know better.

The hardest thing in the world to do is to admit that someone else knows more than you, especially when you have beliefs of your own. To humble yourself to an ideal that is different than one you believe is difficult to do because you're not just saying "I'm wrong." you're saying "Everyone I know who believes this is wrong." which is why these types of debates get so heated.

I am not here to tell any of you that you are wrong. I believe that you have the right to live the way you want to. I am not here to try to make you change your mind, I am here to open your eyes to the fact that the world does not revolve around you. You've got to share this life with everyone else, and not everyone else is going to see things your way.

With that said, let's get started.

NOTE

I realize that rape is a very touchy subject in this issue. I want to say that unless I specifically say something about rape, I am not talking to a rape victem with these statements.

 

Abortion

To anti-abortionists : We get it already. We know you don't like it. We all know that you have a serious problem with the fact that abortion doesn't give the child a chance to live. We have understood for quite some time that you don't like the thought of killing another human being, even if it isn't alive yet. However, I've got one question for you.

Who made you god?

I mean seriously here, you're talking about giving the children a chance for choice when you're trying to make a choice for another human being yourself. You have no idea if the woman in that operating room was raped, inseminated by an alien, or just someone who was too young to think. You have no idea about home life, if the child would get the attention it needs, if the person is getting pressured into the decision by parents/a loved one, or anything. You don't even know this persons name and you already think you know what's best for thier unborn child.

Ever even sit down and think that she got the news "If you have this child, you will die during birth!" ?? YOU try to make that decision!

My Opinion : Sure, the child could say "I want to live!" but has anyone even thought that maybe the baby wanted to just die? It's a horrible thought, but it would be the kids choice right? If you can't invision a child saying "Kill me!" don't you dare sit and try to say you can see one saying "Save me!". Truth is, it doesn't know any better, but neither do you.

There are much  more cival ways to tell a person to not have an abortion than standing outside a clinic with a picket sign calling everyone a whore/slut, or even going as far to kill off a docter who performed an aborton. It's easy to tell someone to keep a kid when you don't have to take care for it, isn't it?

My Opinion : You think it's that easy to take care of a kid? Alright, next time you save a child with a picket sign and a few chants, why don't you take it off the parents hands? I'm sure they'd be happy to find a home for thier unwanted child. You seem very intent on saving lives, you might want to stop trying to make decisions and start giving them an extra choice.

Stop pretending you know everything. Yes, they could be in there killing the next Einstine but they could also be stopping the next Charles Manson. Heck, they could be stopping the friggin anti-christ, ever think of that?! I agree that life is precious, but you've got no right to tell people how to live thier lives or what decisions to make, no matter how much you disagree with them.

To Pro-abortionists (not raped) : There are other options you know. You don't have to kill it off. You have parents, you have friends, there is adoption agencies, or you could suck it up and take responcibility for what you've done.

My Opinion : Now I don't want to hear "Well it came from my *bleepidy bleep*'n ex who was a horrible person and I don't want anything to do with them." Oh cut the drama. That's a living breathing thing you've got there. You think just because it's not out of your stomach yet it's any different than stabbing it in the neck after it pops out? I'm sorry, if a broken heart was good enough reason to shoot a relative then we'd all be dead.

You've got no right to decide to play god either.

Perhaps you think that "this world is too cruel for my child" , or "I cannot provide". Grow up. Others may not know how hard you have it, but there's always options. There are a million and one government programs you could get easily to help provide for that child. There are shelters. There is government housing. There are unemployment agencies. You are not alone in this world, so stop thinking that your kid is going to be. That kid will have you.

To Pro-Abortionists (Rape Victem) : I feel sorry for you. You have no idea how sorry we all feel for you. It was a horrible thing that happened to you, and now you have something that will eternally remind you of that day.

But wait? An option? You could have an abortion! Well it seems right, doesn't it? I mean your child was born of crime, hatred, a downright mistake. It's a darn shame. Let's kill off this innocent being because you were wronged.

That child has as much of a right to live as you do, dispite the fact it was never intended to be born. Think about someone other than yourself. We understand that this horrible thing just happened to you, but get your revenge aginst the person who did it not aginst your unborn child. Wether you like it or not , it is your child. Just because it came from an unexpected father doesn't change the fact that it's still half of you.

The bottom line : This is always such a touchy subject because you've got to think about more than one thing. Your feelings, your ability. The future, the past, the present, the everything. There's no way for me to cover this and seem like I'm sitting on the fence. In this case it's going to look like I'm jumping sides to prove points.

It's complete and utter crap to make a decision for someone else. Not only for the people having the abortions, but for the ones who have not even yet had a chance to learn the words to tell you to stop, much less learned how to crawl.

The sad thing is that the people who will stand out there with picket signs and telling them to "Listen to me, you're wrong." are no better than the ones looking at thier stomachs saying "You wouldn't like this world." or "You won't amount to anything anyway." and don't either of you fool yourself. Nobody is right here.

Truth is that it should never come to this. Rape happens, wake up and take birth control just incase. Do not have sex if you're not ready to have a child. Wear condoms or take some other form of birth control if you just absolutely feel the need to act like a slut. 

Don't try to pretty it up anymore. You're both wrong. If you cannot take responcibility for your actions, you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. Cause and effect people.

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My point basicly is : Sure, it may suck but it's not your choice to make. Ya know? Hey, do what ya want, I'm all for what I believe in but what I'd do is not what you should do and visa versa.