Who the hell does he think he is? My brother, that's who!

 

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Now that you've answered the question, and I hope you did, we can get to my thoughts on the subject. One thing I ask is that if you use the poll, please post a comment so I know how many people voted. You don't have to say how you voted, just if you did or not.

The thought came to my head when my brother started on his little rant today. He is, possibly, one of the rudest people I know. However, I'm going to give my opinion on the matter and let you guys fill in the social acceptance of rudeness and such in comments. Please, take a look over this mans comments and give your own opinion, maybe with your help I can help this man.

Who here has heard the words Please or Thank You? Who here has done something wrong, and said I'm Sorry? These phrases are said nearly every day by each and every person you can imagine. They are common courtesy, used to calm those around us and make everything be pushed forward in a timely manner. Someone does you a favor : You say thank you. Someone makes a mistake : They appologize. This is how most people work, it's just good manners.

What happens when someone doesn't have those manners? What happens when you do something for someone and they don't thank you? What happens when someone insults you, you inform them, and they don't appologize?

The common answer to this question is : Not much. A word might be said about it, but one offense is pretty easily overlooked. However, a collective number of offenses will eventually cause this person to be labled Rude.

Rude is a very blunt term. Now for those of you who do not know the correct usage of the word rude, it means to be lacking the graces and refinement of civilized life;  uncouth, or to be ill-mannered or discourteous.

My brother is one of these "rude" people. He has the following thoughts on a few subjects :

"Just because you were offended doesn't mean I was trying to offend you. It's your fault for taking it the wrong way, that's not what I ment. I will not appologize for your mistake."

"I just don't say I'm Sorry, or Thank you. This is how I am, everyone's allowed to be who they want to be, aren't they? Why should I change for someone else?"

"There's not enough time in life to argue, why should we fight about what I said? Aren't there more important things going on?"

"I may be bad at a few things, I will admit I'm not perfect, but I could be far worse. I could just become a complete jerk and run around telling everyone to shut the F up."

Now, some of you might ask "Well isn't he going to get upset if he sees that you're displaying his private life and actions to the public?", and to this I respond that he doesn't seem to be at all ashamed of the way he is. With this belief fueling my fingers, I don't see a single problem with displaying this information. This is no different than telling you that I went to the Zoo today, this is just his normal day actions. He wasn't acting out, he wasn't trying to start crap. This is truely how he is.

Here are a few things I'd like your opinion on that happened recently :

I have a flaw with how I read things, my mind works much too fast for my mouth to sometimes catch up. Tonight I was reading the word Firebreath, and accidentally said Firebreathe. My brother starts laughing at me.

I find this offensive, because he is in truth laughing at a reading disorder I have no matter how accute it may be. I feel insulted, and ask him to stop. He does not appologize and just says "but it's funny!". He continues to chuckle as I sit there and steam, not trying to start an argument.

Later on, as I am looking through a few things I walk into his room about to play a game. I mention something on a strategy I'm thinking of, and he calls it stupid in a tone that is, as well, insulting dispite the fact that it's a global strategy and not one pinpointed towards him as an individual. This hits me the wrong way, but I feel that nothing needs to be said. I walk out of the room considering the fact he plops down on his bed and starts watching a movie instead of getting set up for the game and the fact that I feel insulted.

He later comes to be asking if we're going to play or not, and while looking through some things again I calmly say "I just don't feel like playing right now, man." and this seems to agravate him to no end. He says "Fine, whatever. Gah." in an obviously agravated tone. He storms into his room and back onto his bed. I go to ask him what his problem is, and he says something about me being ticked off at him, and how there is not enough time in life for being angry. ( This is an agrument he tries alot, especially when he has nothing else to say back or knows what he wants to say is wrong. He obviously does have a sense of right and wrong, and understanding of what is not socially accecptable.)

We have an argument for a while, and after him using blank ended points and logic that does nothing but try to open up it being ok for him being rude, and me being called too sensitive many times as well as a hot head (Because so many things he said insult me, or becaues I like to argue too much while conviently missing the facts that the arguments would not be there if he did not insult me to begin with or that even if I was sensitive,which I am not, that it's not an excuse that allows him to be rude.) the argument ended with me saying :

"Fine, go ahead and be rude. From now on I'm going to raise holy hell when you are and you're going to have to sit there and take it because no matter your excuse you do not have the right to be rude to anyone, no matter who you are."

What is your opinion on the subject?

Denvish on
denvish
Godaamnit, why does this box not allow pasting?

Anyway. Yes, but for other reasons. What I would have actually voted in answer to your question, if the option had been there, is sometimes yes, and sometimes no. Just because someone takes offence at something doesn't necessarily mean that it merits an apology.

And now, having read your blog entry: your brother sounds like a arrogant dick. However, (I'm guessing he's younger than you - if not, he's a late developer lol), it's entirely possible that he's at that stage in his late teens/early twenties where he truly and honestly believes that he is ALWAYS right, and that the world revolves around him and exists for him to use.

In which case, just tolerate it as best you can, turn the other cheek, and hope that he grows out of it sooner rather than later. It's a stage that many teenagers go through (I'll risk abuse by saying more typically males), and at some point it will pass. Bad news is, it may take a couple of years. And unfortunately, trying to 'train' him out of the habit is most likely just going to make matters worse.

Good luck...
natanism on
natanism

Nothing bothers me more than people who do not use their manners.  My father once told me "manners are free and you will damn sure use them." and that is something that has stuck in my head for many years. (I find myself telling people that a lot)

Perfect example, my boyfriend (just so happens to be from W. Virginia) is one of those people.  I sneeze he does not say bless you.  He bumps in to me he doesn't say sorry.  I cook him dinner he doesn't say thank you!!  Ughh! This really pisses me off, I often find myself saying bless you to myself, and your welcome when he doesn't say thank you, just to make a point.  I have been doing this for a year and a half and still no manners. 

His mom came to town about 6 mos ago, and guess what?  Big surprise here she doesn't use any fucking manners either.  My boyfriend has a 5 yr old and an 8 yr old do you want to bet they will not have manners either??

Vincent on
vincent

To Denvish : I had not thought that it could be age related, I remember my late teen years. I'm only 21 now, but I can look back and remember how much I believed I could do whatever I wanted without retaliation or care. I'm still a little bad with it, even.

However, I'm glad to know that it has a chance of passing. I haven't tried training it out of him, and with a word of caution I doubt I'll try. I will, however, not let it fade into the wind. I'm going to make sure he knows when he's being rude and ill mannered. My mother doesn't seem to care, though. It doesn't help me much.

It's curious now that I think about it, almost everything in his life is aginst the word of a parent or lifestyle of his peers. (Church, retail job, no college, not helping his brother when ask or even told [dispite the fact the car is not even his], and most recently noticeable no manners)

His dry sense of humor doesn't help at all either. He can make bland and offensive comments, but due to the fact he has such dry humor that he can (and usually does) pass it off as "It was just a joke man, chill out."

I'll give a few years, we'll see what happens...